Comments on: What's in a label? http://communicationisinspiration.com/2008/09/02/what%e2%80%99s-in-a-label/ Generation 2 Generation: Let's Talk Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:09:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=Communication is Inspiration hourly 1 By: sophie morel http://communicationisinspiration.com/2008/09/02/what%e2%80%99s-in-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-1214 sophie morel Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:26:09 +0000 http://communicationisinspiration.com/2008/09/02/what%e2%80%99s-in-a-label/#comment-1214 Once again, I totally agree with you Jack, as French I know how beautiful our Healthcare system is but I also know that it does not work and cannot be paid anylonger as it used to because the people live longer, we make less babies (although the French are the first in Europe to make more tahn two babies per couple) but still we have a huge deficit with our healthcare because people go see to much doctors for that and this and there are many abused with unlegal immigrants from north Africa who come here to get free healthcare so it put more pressure on our system. Also one has to understand that the government can not pay for everything, we are the government, and i don t want to pay for my colleague's two pairs of glasses that her insurance cover each year! So Hillary yes socialism is a beautiful concept but it is like communism in Russia or China it is an utopia (i don't know whether it is proper English); it is all very nice on paper or on TV (just watch the great M Moore's documentary on Healthcare) but in real life there is a big financial problem.... and you know where we are heading in France? to your system.... meaning that yes the social security will take care of the poor but not the middle class anylonger, it is your personal insurance which covers the rest. just a practical example to avoid all missperception. I have a cane because i am legally blind. It cost about 300€ and the social security must pay around 30€ or less.... Fortunately my parents could afford it or our insurance did i don't remember but see in France, don't think that all is coverred by the social security. The big difference is that anyone can go to an hospital and be taken care of without three people asking you to fill out all kinds of forms. Hillary i agree with Jack, i am for socialism because for me it is as if one was lying to the people. You can not manage people's life like that and Mitterand is a proof! He lied and mismanaged the country so badly that we still feel his policies! I do think though that the next president of the USA HAS a LOT to do with health care because your system is really bad and it is inadmissible that such a great country does not protect his citizen, that is the reason why i would have voted for Mrs Hillary Clinton (maybe it is just bcs I love the Hillaries!!!) because she did a wonderful job years ago with English and french representatives on Healthcare and i do hope that Mr Obama will take it into account.... Kisses from Paris Once again, I totally agree with you Jack, as French I know how beautiful our Healthcare system is but I also know that it does not work and cannot be paid anylonger as it used to because the people live longer, we make less babies (although the French are the first in Europe to make more tahn two babies per couple) but still we have a huge deficit with our healthcare because people go see to much doctors for that and this and there are many abused with unlegal immigrants from north Africa who come here to get free healthcare so it put more pressure on our system.
Also one has to understand that the government can not pay for everything, we are the government, and i don t want to pay for my colleague's two pairs of glasses that her insurance cover each year!
So Hillary yes socialism is a beautiful concept but it is like communism in Russia or China it is an utopia (i don't know whether it is proper English); it is all very nice on paper or on TV (just watch the great M Moore's documentary on Healthcare) but in real life there is a big financial problem…. and you know where we are heading in France?
to your system…. meaning that yes the social security will take care of the poor but not the middle class anylonger, it is your personal insurance which covers the rest.

just a practical example to avoid all missperception.
I have a cane because i am legally blind. It cost about 300€ and the social security must pay around 30€ or less….
Fortunately my parents could afford it or our insurance did i don't remember but see in France, don't think that all is coverred by the social security.

The big difference is that anyone can go to an hospital and be taken care of without three people asking you to fill out all kinds of forms.

Hillary i agree with Jack, i am for socialism because for me it is as if one was lying to the people. You can not manage people's life like that and Mitterand is a proof! He lied and mismanaged the country so badly that we still feel his policies!

I do think though that the next president of the USA HAS a LOT to do with health care because your system is really bad and it is inadmissible that such a great country does not protect his citizen, that is the reason why i would have voted for Mrs Hillary Clinton (maybe it is just bcs I love the Hillaries!!!) because she did a wonderful job years ago with English and french representatives on Healthcare and i do hope that Mr Obama will take it into account….

Kisses from Paris

]]> By: Scott http://communicationisinspiration.com/2008/09/02/what%e2%80%99s-in-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-1213 Scott Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:17:05 +0000 http://communicationisinspiration.com/2008/09/02/what%e2%80%99s-in-a-label/#comment-1213 Hillary and Jack - Thank you both for your insights on this most important and relevant topic. The upcoming election is so pivotal, and it requires all of us to ask ourselves the following questions: what is the best way for us to move forward, and change the negative course of the events of the last 8 years? How can we focus on the many problems we have here at home, while helping those in need beyond our borders in a constructive and positive manner, with support from others? Your debate gets to the heart of the answer. Rather than focus on labels, or categorizing a program or policy as "socialist," "capitalist" or anything else, I would like to see us ask a more basic question - will the program or policy provide benefit to people in need? Can we pay for it, while providing for other programs that are needed and desired? To me, we should be open-minded to any and all solutions that will help us, whether it's for health care, education, the environment, our infrastructure, etc. If another country has a system that is working (from the people's perspective), it is our duty to study these models, and apply what we can to our own system. The goal should be success - regardless of how something may be labeled. Hillary and Jack – Thank you both for your insights on this most important and relevant topic. The upcoming election is so pivotal, and it requires all of us to ask ourselves the following questions: what is the best way for us to move forward, and change the negative course of the events of the last 8 years? How can we focus on the many problems we have here at home, while helping those in need beyond our borders in a constructive and positive manner, with support from others?

Your debate gets to the heart of the answer. Rather than focus on labels, or categorizing a program or policy as "socialist," "capitalist" or anything else, I would like to see us ask a more basic question – will the program or policy provide benefit to people in need? Can we pay for it, while providing for other programs that are needed and desired?

To me, we should be open-minded to any and all solutions that will help us, whether it's for health care, education, the environment, our infrastructure, etc. If another country has a system that is working (from the people's perspective), it is our duty to study these models, and apply what we can to our own system.

The goal should be success – regardless of how something may be labeled.

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